Special ascii characters useful to musicians & liturgists
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Re: Special ascii characters useful to musicians & liturgists
In Word, 0101 followed by Alt+x - Lucinda Sans Unicode.
No idea about Mac - not a clue.
No idea about Mac - not a clue.
Re: Special ascii characters useful to musicians & liturgists
Go into Word, Insert, Symbols - find the symbol you want and the appropriate code is displayed toward the bottom of the box.
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Re: Special ascii characters useful to musicians & liturgists
Southern Comfort wrote:PS: Forgot to say that the Word thing only works if you already have a Unicode font installed on your machine (in my case, Lucida Sans Unicode). You can't change the font to anything else to see what it looks like, either.
Don't know what would happen if you had more than one Unicode font installed. Where might one find others? I don't recall ever installing the Lucida one. It either came with the machine or with some software or other.
A unicode font will not have glyphs for all the code-points (in theory I suppose it could, but there are lots of them), so you may well need different fonts if you wish to use some of the rarer code-points. (At work I would have use for a font that includes characters that require surrogates in utf-16, or 4 bytes in utf-8 ,sorry jargon escaping...)
Many modern fonts include at least some unicode, but I don't know a good way to identify them quickly. The Cambria and Calibri fonts included with Office 2007 have a reasonable selection, but not of the far-eastern languages, and on my system the Arial Unicode MS has quite a wide range. If on Windows you go to the Control Panel and select fonts, and sort by size, you are likely to find the widest range of characters in the largest fonts.
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TimSharrock wrote:Southern Comfort wrote:PS: Forgot to say that the Word thing only works if you already have a Unicode font installed on your machine (in my case, Lucida Sans Unicode). You can't change the font to anything else to see what it looks like, either.
Don't know what would happen if you had more than one Unicode font installed. Where might one find others? I don't recall ever installing the Lucida one. It either came with the machine or with some software or other.
A unicode font will not have glyphs for all the code-points (in theory I suppose it could, but there are lots of them), so you may well need different fonts if you wish to use some of the rarer code-points. (At work I would have use for a font that includes characters that require surrogates in utf-16, or 4 bytes in utf-8 ,sorry jargon escaping...)
Many modern fonts include at least some unicode, but I don't know a good way to identify them quickly. The Cambria and Calibri fonts included with Office 2007 have a reasonable selection, but not of the far-eastern languages, and on my system the Arial Unicode MS has quite a wide range. If on Windows you go to the Control Panel and select fonts, and sort by size, you are likely to find the widest range of characters in the largest fonts.
Once again, very useful. Thanks!
Lucida Sans Unicode is huge (27,000+KB) in comparison with Cambria, Calibri or anything else, even Arial Unicode (370+KB) which I have discovered on my computer at work; so I'm not sure that size matters.....
A simple Google search for free Unicode fonts turns up some very useful links.
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So no-one noticed that versicle, responsory and the performing rights P were in my original cut-and-paste line in page 1?
But, as you'll have realised by elimination, I have no scruples!
FrGareth
But, as you'll have realised by elimination, I have no scruples!
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Southern Comfort wrote:presbyter wrote:So how do you know it's there?
℗ My Snow Leopard is very friendly and has shown me how. I'm glad I'm not on a PC - you all seem to be making life so difficult for yourselves.
Re: Special ascii characters useful to musicians & liturgists
Guys:
4 pages later, and I'm understanding less and less of what you're saying, and I still can't make a blessed umlaut appear by the methods you suggest. I think we do make our lives more difficult by having 101 routes to do the same job and adding more and more layers of sophistication, constant updates, blah blah. That's what I've always hated about computers.
Dare I ask: what does ascii stand for (in no more than a sentence please, no subordinate clauses, no acronyms)?
Dot
4 pages later, and I'm understanding less and less of what you're saying, and I still can't make a blessed umlaut appear by the methods you suggest. I think we do make our lives more difficult by having 101 routes to do the same job and adding more and more layers of sophistication, constant updates, blah blah. That's what I've always hated about computers.
Dare I ask: what does ascii stand for (in no more than a sentence please, no subordinate clauses, no acronyms)?
Dot
Re: Special ascii characters useful to musicians & liturgists
May the force be with you Dot - I'm almost as confused as you. American Standard Code for Information Interchange - I think. Wikipaedia has an explanation that I think I understood!
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- this could be a symbol of repentance and conversion for Windows users. ☺ I don't know what this one is though: ‱
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(That's presbyter putting the annoy back into metanoia.)
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mcb wrote:(That's presbyter putting the annoy back into metanoia.)
Careful now - I'll be back in transliterated Armenian. (And I've now noticed one cannot type in Petrucci in this forum - hmmmmmm)
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presbyter wrote:I don't know what this one is though: ‱
That would be a permyriad... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permyriad
"FrGareth has his permilles (‰) but presbyter has his percents of percents!"
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Personal website: http://www.garethleyshon.info
Blog: http://catholicpreacher.wordpress.com/