Our church building will be 75 years old on St Andrew's day (30 November) We are obviously having a celebration mass presided by the diocesan (Arch)bishop.
What Mass texts should we be using please? St Andrew? Dedication of a church....?
Many thanks in advance............
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Is it the anniversary of the dedication of the church? Is your parish St Andrew's?
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Mass of Saint Andrew, Apostle - Solemnity in the dedicated church.
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docmattc wrote:Is it the anniversary of the dedication of the church? Is your parish St Andrew's?
Yes and yes
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presbyter wrote:Mass of Saint Andrew, Apostle - Solemnity in the dedicated church.
Thank you. Thought so, but PP is waiting for Bishop to say what he thinks, but latter is too busy until after the Papal visit.........And I want to start planning the music!
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Hmm, well our Arch (Longley) seemed quite happy to celebrate our patronal (Saint Kenelm) the Sunday before last even though the feast itself fell on the Saturday.
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My reading of the Table of Liturgical Days in the General Norms for the Liturgical Calendar (pdf) when governs the precedence when there is a choice of celebration suggest that the Mass texts are those of the Anniversary of Dedication rather than St Andrew:
4. Proper Solemnities, namely:
a) The Solemnity of the principal Patron of the place, city or state.
b) The Solemnity of the dedication and of the anniversary of the dedication of a particular church.
c) The Solemnity of the Title of a particular church.
The same document also allows for a Patronal Solemnity to be transferred to the Sunday in Ordinary Time - see here.
4. Proper Solemnities, namely:
a) The Solemnity of the principal Patron of the place, city or state.
b) The Solemnity of the dedication and of the anniversary of the dedication of a particular church.
c) The Solemnity of the Title of a particular church.
The same document also allows for a Patronal Solemnity to be transferred to the Sunday in Ordinary Time - see here.
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Gabriel wrote:My reading of the Table of Liturgical Days in the General Norms for the Liturgical Calendar (pdf) when governs the precedence when there is a choice of celebration suggest that the Mass texts are those of the Anniversary of Dedication rather than St Andrew:
4. Proper Solemnities, namely:
a) The Solemnity of the principal Patron of the place, city or state.
b) The Solemnity of the dedication and of the anniversary of the dedication of a particular church.
c) The Solemnity of the Title of a particular church.
The same document also allows for a Patronal Solemnity to be transferred to the Sunday in Ordinary Time - see here.
I'd still go for the Mass of St Andrew as the Patronal Solemnity in this case. There seems to me to be a degree of ambiguity in the document - and the notes on the Liturgy Office site. As to transferring a Patronal Solemnity to a Sunday - I remember having to show this document to a visiting Bishop who was a little concerned that I had not received permission from the Archbishop so to do. The occasion was the 75th anniversary of my church (forgive the possessive pronoun) - but then that particular celebration ranked under note 3, not 4, of the document.