Suggested SSG website links

[Southern Comfort]

A suggestion that the Links page for publishers and music online should include Liturgical Press http://www.litpress.org, where every individual Psallite item can be downloaded (for a small fee) as an octavo (see http://www.litpress.org/Subjects.aspx?ID=66).

[NorthernTenor]

A suggestion that the Links page for publishers and music online should include Liturgical Press http://www.litpress.org, where every individual Psallite item can be downloaded (for a small fee) as an octavo (see http://www.litpress.org/Subjects.aspx?ID=66).

You might also like to provide a link to the Church Music Association of America, which provides a wide range of Laitin, Greek and English liturgical music downloads, gratis.

BTW SC: where do you source octavo paper?

[presbyter]

Errrr - might there be a bit of a legal question with links to publishers - conflict of interest? How is our charitable status maintained if members of the Society stand to gain financially (albeit pretty minimally, financially) from a link to a publisher? I include myself in this.

[Southern Comfort]

Errrr - might there be a bit of a legal question with links to publishers - conflict of interest? How is our charitable status maintained if members of the Society stand to gain financially (albeit pretty minimally, financially) from a link to a publisher? I include myself in this.

I don't think this is a problem. It's the Society, not its individual members (I speak as someone in the same position as presbyter), which is providing a service to those who visit the website and its forum. Some of those visitors ─ perhaps many ─ are not actually members of the Society. You don't have to be a member to read what's here. In the same way, you don't have to buy anything from a publisher's website, just because you happen to visit it.

If the legal advice is different, since there may be a small number of Society members who might benefit financially from some of the publishers who own the websites, then all publishers will need to be removed, just in case. I think this could be considered unreasonable.

[Southern Comfort]

BTW SC: where do you source octavo paper?

Since I haven't actually downloaded any of these items, I don't know for sure that they are in octavo format, or perhaps letter-size (not much different from A4) format. I don't know of anywhere where you can find octavo-size paper easily, not even in the States. But in any case, when printing out, you can always scale the pages to fit the size of paper you are using, which will mean you get a blown-up image and larger print if it's octavo ─> A4.

[NorthernTenor]

Errrr - might there be a bit of a legal question with links to publishers - conflict of interest? How is our charitable status maintained if members of the Society stand to gain financially (albeit pretty minimally, financially) from a link to a publisher? I include myself in this.

All the more reason to provide links to sources of free liturgical music (see above)!

[NorthernTenor]

BTW SC: where do you source octavo paper?

Since I haven't actually downloaded any of these items, I don't know for sure that they are in octavo format, or perhaps letter-size (not much different from A4) format. I don't know of anywhere where you can find octavo-size paper easily, not even in the States. But in any case, when printing out, you can always scale the pages to fit the size of paper you are using, which will mean you get a blown-up image and larger print if it's octavo ─> A4.

It can be a practical problem. Philip Legge's otherwise marvellous choral edition of the 4th movement of Mahler 2 suffers from being prepared for A4. It's just too small for my purposes (though it might not have been 20 years ago!). I've printed it blown up to A3, but that isn't entirely practical for the limited space in the choir stalls, so I'd love to know where I can get some reasonably priced paper somewhere between A4 and A3 in size. The alternative is for me to use a guillotine to cut the A3 to size!

ps I know this is of interest to at least one other member of this board.

[musicus]

...You might also like to provide a link to the Church Music Association of America, which provides a wide range of Laitin, Greek and English liturgical music downloads, gratis...

Agreed. A very useful resource.

[docmattc]

Let's be clear that we don't intend to create the world's most comprehensive list of links here, its just not worth it. I feel that links pages are very much a remnant of the time when search engines weren't that good. If I want to find OCP's website, I'll google them, but 10 years ago I would have gone to a known website that I knew had a link to them.

Errrr - might there be a bit of a legal question with links to publishers - conflict of interest? How is our charitable status maintained if members of the Society stand to gain financially (albeit pretty minimally, financially) from a link to a publisher? I include myself in this.

As far as I can see, conflict of interest in charity law covers trustees rather than members. Thus it would be certainly be wrong to include a link to the 'buy docmattc a new car' page, but links to publishers who publish material that happens to by members should be OK. However, I will check this with higher authority.

[keitha]

presbyter wrote:Errrr - might there be a bit of a legal question with links to publishers - conflict of interest? How is our charitable status maintained if members of the Society stand to gain financially (albeit pretty minimally, financially) from a link to a publisher? I include myself in this.

Wearing my 'day job' hat, I don't think this is a problem because of (i) the point that SC made and (ii) the publishers have no say or particular influence in how the SSG and its trustees deal with its funds or carry on its activities - the Society is simply providing a convenience to those who access the site and in so doing, fulfilling its constitutional aims.

[Southern Comfort]

I'd love to know where I can get some reasonably priced paper somewhere between A4 and A3 in size. The alternative is for me to use a guillotine to cut the A3 to size!

What you want is B4 size paper. While this is not easily available in stores, your local friendly neighbourhood printer will be able to source this for you. But it's not quite the same size as octavo (folded B4 = B5 is 176 x 250mm as opposed to American octavo format = 182 x 268mm). Also, it is often supplied to printers in a slightly larger untrimmed size, so your printer would need to trim it for you.