I hadn't realised it was so close.
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In the immortal words of C.P.O. Pertwee, "Everybody down". (Let the reader understand.)
Ad limina - maybe not much of a picnic this time chaps
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Re: Ad limina - maybe not much a picnic this time chaps
H'mm: another rant from DT, (O Waly, Waly!), which seems to be saying that all the problems in the church are down to poor liturgy. This cannot be right, otherwise there would be more about Liturgy in the Bible and in the writings of the 1st century Church Fathers as well as in the more recent Tradition of the Church.
I, for one, wish all our Bishops a fruitful and enjoyable visit. I'm not sure that scapegoating helps resolve the problem. One could argue that, if our children do not practice, then we as parents are to blame - but no one who has tried to bring up their child in the faith and failed would accept this.
There are obvious problems in the Western European Catholic World as a whole. If there was a straightforward solution, it would have been applied by now. If Vatican II were a cause of all the church's woes, I cannot see that the Society of Pius X are making any great strides in resolving it - in the UK they are not much larger than a big deanery after all.
Anyone criticising our bishops as a group is also criticising the person who appointed them. Most of our bishops were appointed by Pope John Paul II and I understand he was very concerned to check backgrounds before he appointed anyone. The rest were appointed by Benedict XVI.
Yes, as a practicing Catholic in the UK I'm feeling more and more like some sort of dinosaur, but I'm trusting God to sort it out in his own way and in his own time. His ways aren't ours etc.
Our bishops need our support and prayers, not a rant.
I, for one, wish all our Bishops a fruitful and enjoyable visit. I'm not sure that scapegoating helps resolve the problem. One could argue that, if our children do not practice, then we as parents are to blame - but no one who has tried to bring up their child in the faith and failed would accept this.
There are obvious problems in the Western European Catholic World as a whole. If there was a straightforward solution, it would have been applied by now. If Vatican II were a cause of all the church's woes, I cannot see that the Society of Pius X are making any great strides in resolving it - in the UK they are not much larger than a big deanery after all.
Anyone criticising our bishops as a group is also criticising the person who appointed them. Most of our bishops were appointed by Pope John Paul II and I understand he was very concerned to check backgrounds before he appointed anyone. The rest were appointed by Benedict XVI.
Yes, as a practicing Catholic in the UK I'm feeling more and more like some sort of dinosaur, but I'm trusting God to sort it out in his own way and in his own time. His ways aren't ours etc.
Our bishops need our support and prayers, not a rant.
JW
Re: Ad limina - maybe not much a picnic this time chaps
Some people seem to have strange ideas of what an ad limina visit is - a line of naughty boys outside the headmaster's study?
It should be remembered, that as a number of them said at the time of his election, one reason bishops welcomed the elevation of Joseph Ratzinger was their experience of ad limina and other visits to CDF where he listened and engaged with those who came to see him.
It should be remembered, that as a number of them said at the time of his election, one reason bishops welcomed the elevation of Joseph Ratzinger was their experience of ad limina and other visits to CDF where he listened and engaged with those who came to see him.
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Re: Ad limina - maybe not much a picnic this time chaps
Indeed. This is pretty much what Bishop Hollis is reported in this week's Tablet as having said.
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