Start of Advent

[mcb]

MCB's rendition is great fun

Hang on, when was that then? (Blimey, I must have been drunk. )

[dunstan]

Isn't it wonderful how "Wachet auf" and "Lo he comes" immediately evoke Advent.

Oddly, "Lo he comes" isn't in the version of Celebration Hymnal that we use (the purple one). The words are long out of copyright, so I should produce a congregation sheet for next year.

[presbyter]

MCB's rendition is great fun

pics please

PS - if anyone does not know the song

http://www.kididdles.com/lyrics/r024.html

and this site has an audio file

http://www.dltk-bible.com/genesis/noah_song2.htm

[TimSharrock]

MCB's rendition is great fun

Hang on, when was that then? (Blimey, I must have been drunk. )

possibly I am fairly sure I remember an occasion when we were students - probably not on a punt, for stability reasons, but perhaps at the picnic. I think you also once demonstrated a few verses to Alison when we visited you

Come to think of it, it is not impossible that two of your sons may be exposed to it tomorrow - it depends what is organised at the advent family day at http://www.saviohouse.org.uk

pics please

I will have a look but I fear they may not exist...

Tim

[mcb]

Sorry Tim (who I've never met before), I think you must have got me mixed up with someone else.

(P.S. See you tomorrow.)

[gwyn]

So when does Advent begin then?

[presbyter]

So when does Advent begin then?

I'm still putting in a bid in First Vespers of the 33rd Sunday of the Year - but as I have onlly two candles lit on the wreath, it might be First Vespers of the First Sunday of Advent.

I'd just like to say that for stability reasons, I have never been in/on a punt but that I have met mcb - who was not in/on a punt at the time. I do remember some "young farmers" sinking a punt outside the RS Theatre in Stratford though ......... but it was not in Advent. Is punting a seasonal activity for Advent? If it is, there's a canal nearby.... now all I need is a punt.



I wonder, could the answeer be that we know neither the day nor the hour?

[mcb]

So when does Advent begin then?

In the Eastern Orthodox churches, forty days before Christmas, which means 15th November. But since 15th November in the Julian calendar is the same as November 28th in the Gregorian, it can still (sometimes) coincide with the beginning of Advent in the Western churches.

M.

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"... seems they'd heard about the birds and beesies, beesies ..."

[presbyter]

There's nothing cruel about cross country; it should be a compulsory part of the National Curriculum

So that's punting and cross country as Advent seasonal activities then. What else should I be attempting? Is there an Advent equivalent of the 'glorious twelfth'?

[presbyter]

So when does Advent begin then?

In the Eastern Orthodox churches, forty days before Christmas, which means 15th November. But since 15th November in the Julian calendar is the same as November 28th in the Gregorian, it can still (sometimes) coincide with the beginning of Advent in the Western churches.

Errrr - hang on a min ..... the Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Churches have a somewhat different slant to all this ....... we could get very confused about theophanies - or is it just one theophany?

[presbyter]

fits well with Sunday's reading from Baruch

Did I miss something then? There were no kangaroosies in what was declaimed here. Are you already using the new revised lectionary?

[mcb]

There were no kangaroosies

I meant the refrain!

Errrr - hang on a min ..... the Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Churches have a somewhat different slant to all this ....... we could get very confused about theophanies - or is it just one theophany?

Really? The Orthodox churches have a season of preparation leading up to Christmas, even if they don't all agree that Advent is the right name for it.

There's a difference in whether churches adhere to the Julian or Gregorian calendars, but that applies even within one particular church - the Paris parish of the (Byzantine rite) Russian Catholic church follows the Julian calendar and the Brussels parish the Gregorian; at least that was how it was when I encountered them, twenty-odd years ago.

The Eastern churches have a period of preparation before the feast of the Theophany (which corresponds to our celebration of the Epiphany), but it comes after the Christmas celebrations have ended the Advent fast.

M.

[presbyter]

There were no kangaroosies

I meant the refrain!

sigh - and I thought you might have been saying that recent archaeology had discovered that those leaping gazelles, deers, harts - oft mentioned in the OT - were really bounding marsupials.

So when does Christmas begin? 17th December?

[presbyter]

Sorry Tim (who I've never met before)......

So do you know each other now?

[TimSharrock]

Sorry Tim (who I've never met before)......

So do you know each other now?

as it happens I did not see mcb yesterday - though my eldest son drank some of his beer (he was off at the cathedral when we returned from the Advent Family Day - at which penguins and reindeer were imitated, but no kangaroosies ).

Here, I think, is a picture of mcb playing the piano at an advent celebration in 1982
unfortunately most of him is behind the piano...