Confirmations and the candidates

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docmattc
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Confirmations and the candidates

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Guidelines for confirmation in the diocese of Charlotte say

Within the Confirmation Mass, the role of those to be confirmed is that of “Candidate for Confirmation.” Candidates are not to be assigned additional ministerial roles in this Mass, i.e. lector, altar server, extraordinary minister of holy Communion, usher, commentator. Candidates may carry gifts in the procession for the Presentation of Gifts.


What say you?
I can see a certain merit in this, but I'm fairly certain most places make sure the candidates are all 'doing things'. I can see lots of merit in extending this ruling to first communicants.
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Re: Confirmations and the candidates

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docmattc wrote:I can see lots of merit in extending this ruling to first communicants.

Now you really have opened up a can of worms, Doc!

In our parish, we run a very successful parish-based sacramental preparation programme for Reconciliation and First Holy Communion. In recent years, we've tried to move away from the idea that every First Communicant has to have a job; the children are there to receive Communion for the first time, and have quite enough to concentrate on without worrying about readings, bidding prayers and bringing up the gifts. Chris Walker used to perform a little sketch about this which parodied the occasion perfectly! Something about having six children to bring up the gifts, two for the readings, a little quartet to sing the psalm, eight for the bidding prayers and one to introduce the 'Hail Mary'. That still leaves one without a job so he/she can read a little introduction to the Mass! He would follow this with an impression of eight children lining up to read at the microphone - one with the microphone at chest level, the second with it over his head etc., etc. You get the idea.

Anyway, a couple of years ago, we (the catechists) suggested that the families of the First Communicants might like to take on these roles instead. We had parents and/or older children reading, and younger family members bringing up the gifts. We thought it worked really well and the families involved were very happy but, this year, we almost had a riot on our hands when The Parents rebelled! They didn't like the idea of a parish-based programme in any case, saying that they sent their children to a Catholic school so this preparation could be done at school. :x And they were practically apoplectic when we suggested that the children ought not to have any other responsibilities at the Mass. In the end, the catechists had no option but to back down, or risk the whole thing floundering.

Personally, I think it's a great shame; it worked wonderfully well having other family members taking on the various ministerial and other roles, and it meant that all the children had to focus on was receiving Jesus for the first time in Holy Communion, which is what they were there for!

As for Confirmation, I'm not so sure. In our diocese, confirmation takes place when the candidates are 11, and I think they have the maturity, often, to cope with being asked to proclaim the Word though, again, it would work equally well if their families were involved and they were left simply to focus on the Sacrament being bestowed.
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MaryR's parish and mine are in the same diocese and there is no policy on this sort of thing save that, as Mary says, Confirmation is at year 6 level. In my parish we have recently had confirmations. Preparation is done in the parish school. All the candidates were taught the music as were year 5 (I was invited into the school to work with the staff on this). The choir consisted of the normal adult parish choir plus all of the school staff who had not been involved in the preparation, which demonstrated great solidarity with and support for the candidates. The readers were parents; the gifts were brought up by the children in year 6 who were not candidates (I assume that they were not catholics) and the teachers who had carried out the preparation. It went well, and everyone seemed very happy with it. Judging by his comments about us at his press conference later that week, Archbishop Vincent Nichols was happy with all this!

As for first communions, they take place over 2 successive Sundays starting in 2 weeks' time. It will be interesting to see how that works out, but I am dreading the 'fashion show' that now seems almost to take the occasion over. I would expect the liturgy to be dealt with in a similar manner as for confirmations.
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I wonder if anyone could help me please? We have a Confirmation in September, and I am going to have to do the service booklet - which I am happy to do, hopefully without the mistakes that are usually there when one of the course leaders does it! - as the person who usually does it is going to be away until just before the event.

Has anyone got a service booklet in Word format (preferably) that they could email to me to overtype to save starting from scratch? If so, please PM me and I will let you have my email address

Many thanks

H

PS - Hymn requests from candidates ( or rather their parents!) are predictable:-

Shine, Jesus, shine
Colours of day
Here I am, Lord
Be still, for the presence
Make me a channel
Lord of the dance (vetoed by PP though)
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Re: Confirmations and the candidates

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Hare wrote:I wonder if anyone could help me please? We have a Confirmation in September, and I am going to have to do the service booklet - which I am happy to do, hopefully without the mistakes that are usually there when one of the course leaders does it! - as the person who usually does it is going to be away until just before the event.

Has anyone got a service booklet in Word format (preferably) that they could email to me to overtype to save starting from scratch? If so, please PM me and I will let you have my email address

Many thanks

H

PS - Hymn requests from candidates ( or rather their parents!) are predictable:-

Shine, Jesus, shine
Colours of day
Here I am, Lord
Be still, for the presence
Make me a channel
Lord of the dance (vetoed by PP though)




Many thanks Doc :)
Hare
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Re: Confirmations and the candidates

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And mary! :D
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