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Is Bach's Passion Chorale a pub song?
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Is Bach's Passion Chorale a pub song?
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Re: Is Bach's Passion Chorale a pub song?
As someone from the other end of the East Lancs I have to say that Liverpudlians are definitely different!!
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Re: Is Bach's Passion Chorale a pub song?
Well, I heard a London bus operative of Caribbean descent whistling the chorale Jesu, meine Freude not long ago......
The Passion Chorale was a love-song tune before Luther borrowed it, so why shouldn't folk find it appealing?!
But, to answer Nick's question more seriously, I do think there are melodies which arouse something in people's subconscious. Jung would have had something to say about that. And Huijbers used to talk about musique elémentaire, by which he meant "elemental" music, music that people have floating around inside them, perhaps genetically programmed. All the composer has to do, he said, was try to find this music and tap into it.
I think Hassler must have been onto something when he wrote this tune, and the number of times Bach harmonised it might be an indication of the fact that it did something for him too.
The Passion Chorale was a love-song tune before Luther borrowed it, so why shouldn't folk find it appealing?!
But, to answer Nick's question more seriously, I do think there are melodies which arouse something in people's subconscious. Jung would have had something to say about that. And Huijbers used to talk about musique elémentaire, by which he meant "elemental" music, music that people have floating around inside them, perhaps genetically programmed. All the composer has to do, he said, was try to find this music and tap into it.
I think Hassler must have been onto something when he wrote this tune, and the number of times Bach harmonised it might be an indication of the fact that it did something for him too.
Re: Is Bach's Passion Chorale a pub song?
Southern Comfort wrote:
The Passion Chorale was a love-song tune before Luther borrowed it, so why shouldn't folk find it appealing?!
And when I read that a while ago, I ran it through my mind as a pretty good Morris dance tune. Yes there are some tunes that I think of a 'natural' music, - melody and harmony our brains take to.