exsultet .. youtube ICEL etc

[oopsorganist]

Oh dear
thinking our little music group could learn this from Youtube or whatever..... seemed like a good idea at the time... however my friend has just got me the notation, it says ICEL/Roman Missal on the top but I would guess that is just the text?
So here I am, sadly, trying to follow it with various Youtubes and even with Domcentral (which is what comes up when you google Exsultet)..... and none of them are the same.. not the same as what I have printed before me. Similar. But not the same. I have not worked out if they are all variations, or if I have got the wrong notation. It seems that there are many versions out there or I might just be confused. Which happens sometimes.

What to do what to do what to do.

I was thinking we could get one of the two younguns to sing it/ if we could manage is as a group it would have moved forward to this, but it seems to be doomed .........every year, doomed.

[docmattc]

Its a long and complicated piece oops, ideally (if they can sing) to be sung by a deacon or priest but otherwise laity. There are lots of recordings of it out there in youtube land, most of them absolutely dire.
This one is fairly close to the tune given in the missal, which is an apadtation of the chant tune for the Latin text. Because of this it suffers somewhat due to the different patterns of stress between English and Latin. If that's not the tune you've got I'll need some clues to identify it. (But if it has 15 beats on the 1st syllable of the word "Only" a few times, its the McGuinness setting)

Do you have Resurrexit (published by Decani)? There's a very straightforward psalm-tone setting in there (page 96) with a couple of jolly refrains for the people to sing. I think it might be just what you're looking for. The verses could be sung by a cantor or by a group, and if you keep it moving (as this exciting text needs to) then it serves to proclaim the Easter message very well.

[oopsorganist]

Nope your link is not what I have written down before me,
but is does not seem to contain the word "only" anywhere in what is before me.
It sounds a bit like it, but not the same.
We sang on Thursday to the notation in Br. Xs book so I imagine what he has given me is the one in his book.
They all sound the samish but then again not. I feel very confused.
This one starts Rejoice heavenly powers, sing choirs of angels and notation is g a c b c d c / c b a b c a a
it sounds like the one you linked to (which I have heard already) but not identitical.

Arghhhh

[oopsorganist]

and just to make matters worse, I can't get it out of my head! The tune that is. I have an Exsultet maggot.

[Southern Comfort]

This one[/url] is fairly close to the tune given in the missal, which is an apadtation of the chant tune for the Latin text. Because of this it suffers somewhat due to the different patterns of stress between English and Latin. If that's not the tune you've got I'll need some clues to identify it. (But if it has 15 beats on the 1st syllable of the word "Only" a few times, its the McGuinness setting)

That one sounds to me like recently ordained Dominican priest Fr Bruno Clifton, and this impression is bolstered by one of the still shots that goes with it (which shows Timothy Radcliffe and some others). The text is a highly unofficial one - presumably an OP translation - which bears no resemblance to the current ICEL text, and the music is a very florid adaptation of the chant (perhaps a Dominican variant of the Roman tone?).

This one, however:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... q=exsultet
sounds pretty much like the missal tone, though it appears to come from the USA.

[gwyn]

Hi Oops. Did the printout and the CD with the English version from the Missal ever arrive? I think it was last year or maybe the year before that I sent it to you. That version is authentic.

Be joyful. Keep The Faith.

[oopsorganist]

Yes Gwyn!
I did have them ... from you XX... about three years ago it must have been... that is how long this project has been trying to take off........ !
But I gave them to the cantor who disappeared with them. ( But he did not sing the exsultet that year and is not part of our parish now, but hey, with parish restructuring we might all be due to shuffle into all sorts of other musicians orbits again, which is swings and roundabouts, good and bad.... if I see him again I will ask for it back!)
Thanks.
I now have two teenagers who could handle the Exsultet with moderate skill. And since it is possible it might just be our last Easter in our church...... it would be nice to actually get the thing sung!

[oopsorganist]

Yes Southern Comfort
with a few singer errors maybe, that is the one I have got in notation form. Thankyou.
This is the unexpected problem of starting with a group singing it. It has to be tidy. I guess if an individual sings it and they know how to do chant, then it can be a bit more individual or less tidy and still be OK.

[docmattc]

The text is a highly unofficial one - presumably an OP translation - which bears no resemblance to the current ICEL text, and the music is a very florid adaptation of the chant (perhaps a Dominican variant of the Roman tone?).

and its not the one I thought I'd given a link too

This one however...

...is the one I meant to point to! Apologies for the red herring Oops

[oopsorganist]

We are plodding on with this......................my brother made a CD which we have copied and passed around, it is MX Moleski which is on a Cantors website too.......
..... we should have at least three people who could go on to handle the Exsultet by themselves in future years, indeed in future parishes!

I have toyed with the idea of slipping the CD into our new CD player sound system and pretending we have a mystery cantor..... if only the Vigil Mass was planned later, I could get away with it in the dark.........

[oopsorganist]

Well we had a bash at it. I have no idea how good or bad it was ... it was certainly authentic.
Otherwise I have had a rubbish Vigil Mass and wish I was a million miles away from our parish! The number 16 bus that halted the fire ceremony outside amused me...... I didn't get the number of the bus from which younsters shouted abuse going the other way!

[gwyn]

They day we cease to be noticed is the day we should worry.

That's absolutley right Nick. Many years ago I was, as it were, the person shouting from the bus. Teenaged me shouted in ridicule at an open-air church service. I'd no experience of "church or "worship". The sight did ignite a flame within me though, enough for me to creep alone to a church service later in teh year. Once there I was as they say "hooked".

[oopsorganist]

Actually it was a moment. Just as the jeering bus thundered by, a family that I don't know wandered in complete with toddler with bottle hung from his mouth, dangling..............it kind of makes you think about what you are doing.
We should have more open air services.

[presbyter]

This one, however:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... q=exsultet
sounds pretty much like the missal tone, though it appears to come from the USA.

Is it the darkness affecting my eyes - or is he really wearing a broad purple stole? Not very Paschal if he is! But he is doing a good job with the Exsultet