alan29 wrote:And I do believe Sweet Sacrament Divine has appeared in at least one non-catholic hymnal.
Yes, it's in Common Praise, the latest incarnation of Hymns Ancient and Modern (and a very good hymnal). I've played it at a few Anglican Eucharists. It made quite a nice change to be able to play it with the written rhythm.
What is it about Catholics and dotted rhythms? "Repton" is a good example; I believe that one book a few years ago "ironed these out" into straight crotchets - perhaps that's why. And yet how many congregations manage to turn the triplets in "Living Lord" into a dotted rhythm. And why does EVERY denomination and none (funerals, weddings etc) get the rhythm wrong in the 1st verse of "Jerusalem" at the words "shine forth upon------ our clouded hills" ? Then there's the inital bass "thump" in "Woodlands"........ And the spurious passing notes in "St Denio" and "Cwm Rhondda" (we all know about "Adeste Fideles" in that respect!) Then there's the syncopation in "All that I am" that gets "ironed-out".................. I'm sure I'll think of more!!
But there's one error that Catholic congregations don't seem to make, that drives our colleagues in other denominations mad, and that's on the antepenultimate note in Abbotts Leigh, which as written is the tonic, making the last 3 notes doh re doh. A lot of CofE congregations sing mi re doh. OK, it's not exactly a great defence, but may count for partial mitigation.
asb wrote: And the spurious passing notes in "St Denio"
We're straying off topic, but I noticed those yesterday morning. Specifically, my ears registered that I had played them in the introduction while my eyes told me they weren't in the music.
Spurious passing notes creep into all manner of things. I regularly rehearse them out of the choir in Cwn Rhondda but they are back again by Sunday. At least they are better than glisandos.
contrabordun wrote:But there's one error that Catholic congregations don't seem to make, that drives our colleagues in other denominations mad, and that's on the antepenultimate note in Abbotts Leigh, which as written is the tonic, making the last 3 notes doh re doh. A lot of CofE congregations sing mi re doh. OK, it's not exactly a great defence, but may count for partial mitigation.
I forgot that one - my congregation is obviously the exception!
Southern Comfort wrote:
asb wrote:And the spurious passing notes in "St Denio"
The version of the tune with the passing notes is known as "Joanna". Sometimes you hear some passing notes but not others - a sort of "St Jenny-o".
I think they were printed in HON, but the tunes were not named.
We always sing "How great thou art" with dotted quaver; semi-quaver rhythm to "my Saviour God to thee", but that's not how its writ in Laudate or HON. Straight quavers in both.
