Post-Conciliar discontinuity

[nazard]

Is there a danger that what has been used as prayer over the years is abandoned for a foreign language (latin), and the exclusive use of gregorian and neo-gregorian chant?

In general or along a cul-de-sac of blasted heath, whose indeterminate royal ownership was attributed by both pre- and post-conciliar civil assembly, and who to date, steadfastly remain in shameful, pitiful and culpable apostrophic ignorance? I make a case that ICEL be commissioned to manufacture suburban signs. Google map B14 7JN for the correct spelling of this district. How come Google can manage correct punctuation and the council not?

King'sfield Road, Kings Heath? or perhaps Kings'field Road, Kings' Heath?

What has this got to do with the topic?

[Peter Jones]

What has this got to do with the topic?

Try blowing up satellite view for the large church that, I suspect, Mr Flute knows quite well.

[contrabordun]

This is worse than Round Britain Quiz.

The council dropped the apostrophe off the road signs, which now read "Kings Heath", a good while ago - I think I was still living there, so it must have been 1998ish.

The bit of the GWR territory I now live in gets round the apostrophe problem via a Latin 3rd declension genitive.

But I don't have a clue about why we're discussing this, or even what is the actual topic of the thread.

[nazard]

Rowley Regis - my paternal seat so to speak. Is Mr Bear out on the Banks' tonight?

[Peter Jones]

But I don't have a clue about why we're discussing this, or even what is the actual topic of the thread.

Is it something to do with singing Gregorian Chant in Latin in King's Heath?

[Peter Jones]

Where's Alan from Malvern - he's GWR territory - maybe he can help? And the station there has been restored according to tradition - but it's still novus ordo - no steam. Charming GWR valance though in the correct colouring. Authentic liturgy.

[Peter Jones]

But I don't have a clue about why we're discussing this, or even what is the actual topic of the thread.

Perhaps.......

- but it's still novus ordo - no steam. Charming GWR valance though in the correct colouring. Authentic liturgy.

............the topic is about dressing up the novus ordo in old clothes, so that it looks old. Perhaps that's how GF interprets hermeneutic of continuity?
Perhaps it's about singing Dan Schutte in Latin?

[musicus]

I've said it before: I go out for an hour or two (no, not drinking) and people go off on one. Since I cannot deduce what the topic is meant to be, I think it would be pointless to urge everyone to return to it. Perhaps this is just one of those discursive threads.

[Peter Jones]

Perhaps this is just one of those discursive threads.

You mean it's about singing the EF in Latin to music by Dan Schutte?

[Peter Jones]

It's reasonable to expect we might spend a little time working out a balanced response.

Ah! Gotcha NT!! You want the Novus Ordo in Latin with music by Paul Inwood !! (Sorry folks - I cannot take this thread very seriously)

[Gedackt flute]

Why do you not sing Gelineau (Jelly nose?) psalms too?

- We do frequently. Just a few weeks ago we sang 'Give the Lord glory and power'. I 'auditioned' the response settings, and my own masterpiece and the Bob Batastini were given the thumbs down in favo(u)r of Richard Proulx.

[Gedackt flute]

Sorry folks - I cannot take this thread very seriously

I believe that this thread should be taken seriously, because I feel that there is a real danger now that the music, traslations, and liturgical reforms of the last 40 years or so which have enabled many to gain access to the word of God (particularly psalmody) will be replaced by poor-quality meandering neo-gregorian music, and transaltions that people do not understand.

This, combined with, for example, banning communion wine and altar girls, virtually eliminating scripture (the EF mass / latin), the priest facing the wrong way etc., in my view leads away from the Gospel.

Do we really want Fr. Z &, the NLM the LMS to be setting the agenda?

Whatever happened to Christ being the centre of all liturgy?

[Peter Jones]

(the EF mass / latin)

So is there a stable group of faithful who adhere to the earlier liturgical tradition active in your parish GF, demanding a weekly celebration of the EF?

[Peter Jones]

........ banning communion wine and altar girls.........

is this happening in your parish..... or is it the policy of your diocese (or the Bishops' Conference of England and Wales)? (Thinks - what was that creature with the flowing locks holding a book for Benedict XVI at Cofton Park? Oh yes - she was an "altar girl")

[Peter Jones]

..........will be replaced by poor-quality meandering neo-gregorian music

Is this happening in your parish?

Non torsii subligarium! GF