The abuse of the Ordinary Form?

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keitha
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The abuse of the Ordinary Form?

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Whilst I fully understand the attitudes of those who were brought up with the Extraordinary Form and find the Ordinary Form hard to take (and applaud the relaxation of the restrictions on the celebration of the Extraordinary Form), I have been finding myself a bit baffled as to why many of those who were not brought up with it are so enthusiastic for it. I suspect much of it arises out of the very poor way in which many Ordinary Form masses are celebrated. At Mass this morning we had a priest who has done much to improve the parish liturgy since he arrived 3 years ago, and has enthusiastically adopted the 'Benedictine Formation' and provided a prie dieu for those who wish to kneel to receive Holy Communion (which in three years, I have yet to see anyone use), however, I found the following hugely offputting:

1. mobile phone rings in handbag during homily; woman aged around 60 takes it out............and then has a 3 minute conversation, before putting back, still swiched on; apart from my sons and me, no-one batted an eyelid (and I heard two others ring during Mass) and I lost my track of the homily;

2. at Communion a piece of recorded music was played - slightly 'folksy' with studio instrumentation and electronic effects - and it continued until the celebrant got back to the Presider's seat - where the remote control was based, when he switched it off and concluded the Mass; it did not assist my silent act of thanksgiving and contemplation.

In case anyone is trying to work out where I was, I am currently out of the UK!
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keitha wrote:Whilst I fully understand the attitudes of those who were brought up with the Extraordinary Form and find the Ordinary Form hard to take (and applaud the relaxation of the restrictions on the celebration of the Extraordinary Form), I have been finding myself a bit baffled as to why many of those who were not brought up with it are so enthusiastic for it...


This sounds as though you think that being brought up with the Extraordinary Form is a prerequisite to prefering it. which would appear not to be true. It is certainly the case that EF congregations are getting a much more sustainable age distribution now, in some cases better than OF masses. The congregations are slowly growing too. Perhaps a Te Deum is called for?
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Re: The abuse of the Ordinary Form?

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Or a Dies Irae even.....
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Re: The abuse of the Ordinary Form?

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Let's just be honest about the 'EF' 'Mass'.

It is a Gospel-free novelty for people who are allergic to the New Testament and the presence of Christ in the people.
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Re: The abuse of the Ordinary Form?

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Hear!Hear! Give that man a drink. How dare these people even call themselves Catholics? Have they even heard of Marty Haugen?
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Hear!Hear! Give that man a drink. How dare these people even call themselves Catholics? Have they even heard of Marty Haugen?

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Re: The abuse of the Ordinary Form?

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johnquinn39 wrote:Let's just be honest about the 'EF' 'Mass'.

It is a Gospel-free novelty for people who are allergic to the New Testament and the presence of Christ in the people.


Gospel free - I assume you mean "free" in the cockney sense. The EF actually only has two gospels.

"Where two or three are gathered in my name..." applies to the EF, and for that matter to a spontaneous prayer group in a bus queue.
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