PANEL decisions

[musicus]

Let's stay on topic please. This is a useful thread for those of us struggling to make sense of the Panel's decisions.

[presbyter]

Let's stay on topic please. This is a useful thread for those of us struggling to make sense of the Panel's decisions.

ooops! A caniform caesural command....... I'll abandon the international flavour I've injected then and stick to our panel. The next submit-by date is not that far away.

[Southern Comfort]

The next submit-by date is not that far away.

It's been moved from this Friday to next Tuesday.

[presbyter]

Thank you SC.

From the (increasingly complicated) Liturgy Office website

Future Panel meetings
Tuesday 7 June (submissions received by Tuesday 31 May)
Tuesday 28 June (submissions received by Tuesday 21 June
Wednesday 14 September (submissions received by Wednesday 7 September)

[Nick Baty]

And in the 11 weeks between 28 June and 14 September....?

[presbyter]

And in the 11 weeks between 28 June and 14 September....?

Publishers might just get the collections we hear hints of in print and in circulation?

[Nick Baty]

Or not. Because the Panel is not operating for almost three months!
Any reason why?

[presbyter]

Or not. Because the Panel is not operating for almost three months!
Any reason why?

It's a truly Roman holiday....... needed especially, I should think, by the (cough,cough) large staff of the Liturgy Office to recover from the pressure he is under.

[Southern Comfort]

Isn't the Canadian Conference the one that can't conceive of liturgical music that isn't suited to guitar strumming?

However, the guidelines for assessing music at that link include this:

Does the music employ minimal syncopation?

Slightly difficult to reconcile that with guitar strumming, me thinks. And it makes it sound as if syncopation is considered sinful.....

[Southern Comfort]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did I hear a
"Holy, holy, holy Lord,
Lord God of hosts"
in Liam Lawton's Sanctus?

Does that meet with the approval of the Gang of Five?

I have now been asked more than once in workshops whether Liam Lawton is "kosher". I have had to explain that if you buy the GIA octavo from Decani Music, its contents have been approved by the US process and you are free to use it, but if Decani wanted to include the same music in a resource collection or hymnbook in the UK they would need to resubmit it to the E&W process. People simply don't understand that at all.

[presbyter]

And it makes it sound as if syncopation is considered sinful.....

Or even synful

Good luck to everyone who has submitted compositions for tomorrow's meeting.

[Nick Baty]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did I hear a
"Holy, holy, holy Lord,
Lord God of hosts"
in Liam Lawton's Sanctus?
Does that meet with the approval of the Gang of Five?

Presumably yes as there is a setting available from a UK publisher which does exactly the same thing.

[NorthernTenor]

Does anyone know of a setting that has been passed by the Panel that sets one or two, but not three, of the Sanctus, Memorial Acclamation and Amen?

[HallamPhil]

i do not know such a setting but I presume you mean one of the five (there are 3 memorial acclamations).

[NorthernTenor]

i do not know such a setting but I presume you mean one of the five (there are 3 memorial acclamations).

Indeed, Phil. The background to this is a ruling from the Panel that a stand-alone Sanctus setting will not be passed - it has to be accompanied by settings of the Memorial Acclamations and the Amen. Good idea or bad, it's an example of the Panel acting outwith its stated purpose and pushing a particular model of liturgical music publication. My request for information was out of interest in the consistency of the panel's approach to this matter.

It would be also interesting to know whether any Panel members have a commercial interest in the publication of 'complete' mass settings; but I guess it's not good form to ask