Full in the panting heart of Rome

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Re: Full in the panting heart of Rome

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The little snippet of "I give you a new commandment" on the Composers' Group page suffers from doubled thirds too - done to avoid fifths between T & B no doubt in progressing to the F sharp minor chord - but it still doesn't sound so good. (Please don't tell me this is a Purcell crib/pastiche!!)
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Where is this snippet, Presbyter? I can't see it on the Composer's Group page.
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Its the graphic here
which is based on a Russian formula in a source now mislaid. The 'composer' makes no claims even to know what a doubled third might be.
It worked well on the one occasion it has been used, sung by the choir for whom it was written.
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docmattc wrote:Its the graphic here
which is based on a Russian formula in a source now mislaid. The 'composer' makes no claims even to know what a doubled third might be.
It worked well on the one occasion it has been used, sung by the choir for whom it was written.


The rhythm seem a little odd...
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I think we need new words, especially the first line. It could be misconstrued.
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Re: Full in the panting heart of Rome

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Oh, I see. A D sharp in the alto of the offending chord would fix it, and sound good.

But we have strayed off topic.
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musicus wrote:Oh, I see. A D sharp in the alto of the offending chord would fix it, and sound good.


A great improvement, but it still doesn't sort out the strange rhythm of "a new commandment".
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It would be folly to assume that it was ever sung to the precise timing written. It is only on the page as a graphic to act as a page divider, not as a piece of music offered for general consumption, unlike the piece which is the subject of this topic.
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I'm not so sure we are that far off topic because having "marked" a piece that a composer has placed in the public domain as if it were an A level music exercise - and found him wanting - we then place a piece on our website that is similarly wanting. I think Mr de Satge could accuse us of pots calling the kettle black. I'm not sure if this forum is an appropriate place to take someone's music to pieces. That's much better done by assessment in private - as some of us in here assess each other's music before it reaches the light of day.
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presbyter wrote:... - we then place a piece on our website that is similarly wanting.

It has been removed.
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presbyter wrote:I'm not sure if this forum is an appropriate place to take someone's music to pieces. That's much better done by assessment in private - as some of us in here assess each other's music before it reaches the light of day.


While agreeing that private assessment is much nicer (!), as soon as anyone puts her/his music on a public website for free download, they are opening themselves up to a public critique (in this case a demolition job) in the same way as if the music were published in print and being reviewed in the columns of M&L. It's one of the hazards of daring to put one's work before the public. If you can't take it, don't do it. It could have been anyone. It just happened to be someone who is not quite in our midst.

The music on the Composers' page is something else. No one knows who wrote it, so it's fair game.
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